KWA ERG M4 vs Gas ptr

[oring]

I had the chance to give these a look at a couple events and heard they GBBR is now out. KWA has taken a serious step up in the world with these releases.

Wanted to hear some thoughts on these systems

Mine are

EGR:
takes starndard mags as well as 30rnd training mags
bolt catch to function feature very impressive.
recoil as good if not better than the PTR
cost effective training tool
upgrading will be a challenge
still uses 2 piece hop
lacks the total real action of the PTR


PTR:
so real it's sexy
mag cost not unreasonable
serious contender in the GBBR market
operating cost higher than EGR
upgrade ability?

I know the forum is small but not a bad way to start this off. also will Cool Stuff be carrying these? My father ran a small local business that my sister now runs so I buy local whenever I can

[B_Carn]

Currently we have a PTR at the store. When we got it and test fired it, I was pretty impressed. I'm not big on gas rifles, but in terms of build quality and out of the box performance, it was exactly the high quality rifle that I'd expect from a KWA.

[Plague]

I have an upgraded g&p gbb m4, and the kwa blows it out of the water right out of the box. Hands down it is the best gbb m4 that is out. All of the issues many gbbrs have were fixed, including an amazing hopup unit. Personally I wouldnt change anything until i had too. As for the erg line, i have not gotten to see on yet, so I cant say much except that they look good.

[oring]

HMM. now I read the rules and I thought it said no gas rifles. if this is the case I am gonna have to go with the electric. I got into 3 gun shooting in Georgia, so gotta keep it as real as I can (although not many of those up here). I found that I developed alot of bad habits with my glock when I had my TM AEP and later the CYMA AEP. bummer, oh well, more than worth the wait far as I am concerned. off topic but anyone here shoot 3 gun or comp shooting? Never a bad way to spend a Saturday

[Plague]

never gotten into competition shooting myself, although i do enjoy going to the range. as for the gas rifles, we are looking for a way to eliminate the easy fps change that many gas rifles have (NPAS units) the rules may change.

[oring]

do You know if they have plans for a low power bolt such as the MP7 and MP9, may handle the problem for the KWA

[Plague]

I'm not sure, although it already shoots in the 340 range. RA tech will more than likely release an NPAS bolt for it eventually though, as well as other internal parts.

[prodigy]

i would go with the kwa because gas can get a little expensive